{"id":6461,"date":"2014-02-02T04:00:23","date_gmt":"2014-02-02T09:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bootedmanblog.com\/?p=6461"},"modified":"2014-02-02T06:23:01","modified_gmt":"2014-02-02T11:23:01","slug":"dining-with-friends-who-happen-to-be-married-gay-men","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bootedmanblog.com\/?p=6461","title":{"rendered":"Dining With Friends (who happen to be married gay men)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>While in San Francisco for one night &#8212; last Sunday &#8212; I arranged to have dinner with two good friends who live there &#8212; Larry of &#8220;hotboots.com&#8221; fame, and Ken, the owner of Stompers Boots.  Both Larry and Ken invited their husbands, Bill and Walter, respectively, to join us.<\/p>\n<p>Yep, husbands.  There I am, also a married man, with a ring on my finger indicating that I&#8217;m in the same relationship.  <\/p>\n<p>What things to married gay men talk about?<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\n&#8230; same things that any other married couples talk about &#8212; life, concerns about family, and catch-up on the activities and interests of your visiting friend.  <\/p>\n<p>Really, there are no differences at all between what gay and straight married couples talk about.  And there shouldn&#8217;t be!  However, I had one person write to me to ask &#8220;what kinds of things do gay married couples talk about?&#8221; &#8212; implying that our conversations would be different from the conversations of straight folk.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re middle-aged, nearing- or fully retired men.  We are settled with our spouses into a life we have made with each other.  Just like any other couple, our lives have their moments, joys, challenges, and so forth.  No different from anyone else.<\/p>\n<p>Come to think of it, we did not talk about anything gay-related, even though the restaurant where we were dining was in the heart of &#8220;the Castro&#8221; &#8212; the foundation of the &#8220;gayest&#8221; neighborhood in the City of San Francisco. We know we are gay. We are married.  So what?<\/p>\n<p>The only &#8220;gay-thing&#8221; we talked about was observing a nice-looking young man arrive, dressed in head-to-boot leather.  Tight leather.  Well-built guy filled out his leathers &#8220;woofy-well.&#8221;  I know that I was not the only married man at our table watching this dude walk by.  But isn&#8217;t &#8220;man-watching&#8221; the same for a gay man as &#8220;woman-watching&#8221; is for a straight man?  Our marriages reflect commitment to our spouses, but do not mean that we cannot appreciate seeing some eye candy every now and then.  All guys do that; normal.<\/p>\n<p>As I thought about our dinner, I reflected, &#8220;man, isn&#8217;t this something, though.  Here we are, married men, having dinner and enjoying life as any other couples would be doing &#8212; and not being treated any differently.  Times have changed for much better and rather quickly.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Being &#8220;of that age&#8221; and also out of respect for my need to continue with adjusting to jet lag, we met for dinner early (6pm) and were done by 7:30, and for me &#8212; back to the hotel and off to bed.  No play&#8230; no stray&#8230; no going to a bar&#8230; just to bed.  I guess *that* is the difference for older married gay men &#8212; we poop out and do not party.<\/p>\n<p>Life is short:  the normalcy of normal behavior and conversation is quite normal.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While in San Francisco for one night &#8212; last Sunday &#8212; I arranged to have dinner with two good friends who live there &#8212; Larry of &#8220;hotboots.com&#8221; fame, and Ken, the owner of Stompers Boots. 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